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		<title>By: visithra</title>
		<link>http://superstarksa.com/2005/04/26/footloose-blues-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-260</link>
		<dc:creator>visithra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2005 04:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well that was what I was saying, not wanting to lose your roots is akin to pride as well. The thing is, Malaysias different from other indian communities around the world, its just like being in India. Thats the term my friend put when he came down over the weekend. You could easily be forgiven if you were to think this was some city in India.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well that was what I was saying, not wanting to lose your roots is akin to pride as well. The thing is, Malaysias different from other indian communities around the world, its just like being in India. Thats the term my friend put when he came down over the weekend. You could easily be forgiven if you were to think this was some city in India.</p>
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		<title>By: anantha</title>
		<link>http://superstarksa.com/2005/04/26/footloose-blues-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-2147</link>
		<dc:creator>anantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2005 03:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a way true! The grass is definitely greener on the other side, but in a way i am saying my grass is much more greener! 

This discussion is turning on my creative juices and making me think each and everytime someone comments. This one came to me as I was re-reading ur&#039;s and Varun&#039;s comments. 

I think the popularity of Bhangra came about because a lot of ppl from Punjab settled abroad in England/USA, but did not wanna lose their roots. I think something similar is happening in case of Tamil music in  Malaysia and Singapore. Similarly there is a sizable Punjabi population in Chennai, with the Punjab Association running atleast half a dozen schools (incl. the ones that I studied through out). But while the Punjabis seem to have popularized their brand of music in the south, Tams seem to have not done something similar whereever they went in India...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a way true! The grass is definitely greener on the other side, but in a way i am saying my grass is much more greener! </p>
<p>This discussion is turning on my creative juices and making me think each and everytime someone comments. This one came to me as I was re-reading ur&#8217;s and Varun&#8217;s comments. </p>
<p>I think the popularity of Bhangra came about because a lot of ppl from Punjab settled abroad in England/USA, but did not wanna lose their roots. I think something similar is happening in case of Tamil music in  Malaysia and Singapore. Similarly there is a sizable Punjabi population in Chennai, with the Punjab Association running atleast half a dozen schools (incl. the ones that I studied through out). But while the Punjabis seem to have popularized their brand of music in the south, Tams seem to have not done something similar whereever they went in India&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: visithra</title>
		<link>http://superstarksa.com/2005/04/26/footloose-blues-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-258</link>
		<dc:creator>visithra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2005 02:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anti,
Exactly giving them a chance by not inflicting predetermined views on them.

Told my friends about this they had only one thing to say - which I think aptly summarises it. 

Ikkaraiku akkarai pachai. - The grass is much greener on the other side. :)))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anti,<br />
Exactly giving them a chance by not inflicting predetermined views on them.</p>
<p>Told my friends about this they had only one thing to say &#8211; which I think aptly summarises it. </p>
<p>Ikkaraiku akkarai pachai. &#8211; The grass is much greener on the other side. <img src='http://superstarksa.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ))</p>
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		<title>By: anantha</title>
		<link>http://superstarksa.com/2005/04/26/footloose-blues-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-2146</link>
		<dc:creator>anantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2005 18:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon: ya.. Elephunk theme... kinda old news.. but appreciate it in any case.. 
Btw.. do u have a name? :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon: ya.. Elephunk theme&#8230; kinda old news.. but appreciate it in any case..<br />
Btw.. do u have a name? <img src='http://superstarksa.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2005 16:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of Tamil Remix...Here is one that was brought to my attention by a friend of mine..I like it a lot.. Hope you like it too..

http://www.danceage.com/media/276-Black-Eyed-Peas-Elephunk.php 

Choose the Song &quot;The Elephunk Theme&quot;.

Come to you Blog thru Vinods Blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Tamil Remix&#8230;Here is one that was brought to my attention by a friend of mine..I like it a lot.. Hope you like it too..</p>
<p><a href="http://www.danceage.com/media/276-Black-Eyed-Peas-Elephunk.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.danceage.com/media/.....ephunk.php</a> </p>
<p>Choose the Song &#8220;The Elephunk Theme&#8221;.</p>
<p>Come to you Blog thru Vinods Blog.</p>
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		<title>By: anantha</title>
		<link>http://superstarksa.com/2005/04/26/footloose-blues-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-2145</link>
		<dc:creator>anantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2005 23:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Visitha: Let me thrown in a small curve ball here. I am still not sure whether everyone sitting there watching cricket enjoyed the song. I just think some enjoyed and the rest were either ambivalent or just keeping quiet. Whether all of us liked it or not is another question, but atleast we (knowingly or unknowingly) let the 2 non-Tams form their own opinion! And thats the path I wanna go, overall and i think thats mirroring your opinion as well.

Varun: I am talking NEITHER of overnight change nor about pride in my language. I am talking about pride in MY music! If u notice, I ask you to get to the zone and concentrate not on the lyrics (i.e. the language) or the choreo, but only on the beats! And inspite of having just passing knowledge of Telugu, I am reccommending atleast 2 telugu songs. So, my contention is not about the Tamil language. Ultimately, I need songs to dance to and songs, be it Telugu or Tamil or Hindi or Punjabi would suffice. It is just that wherever I go, I get to dance to the same songs that I thought some variety could help. And I sought this variety in the form of gaana! And if u think Hindi as you know it is sweeter than the Chennai Tamil, check out the Hindi spoken in the Old City areas of Hyderabad and Mumbai! So, Hindi is as multidimensional as any other language.

Kumaran: True, but again, I am prepared for anything if it means I&#039;d get variety on the dance floor. Kamal had this line in some movie or the other, referring to jokes. Roughly translated to, the fun of a joke is in the laughter it generates, and not in the analysis of its punchline!
Similarly, if u wanna  have mindless fun, dance to the song, but dont think too much about the technical aspects!

Anand: You&#039;ve linked to a lot of my other favs. I just took the pick of my favs to incl. in these posts! And I have actually heard Kabhi Kabhi! A friend of mine thinks its hilarious too and used to keep singing it when I was in Chicago till about a month ago! Ya, Thottal Poo Malarum! How could i miss it? And as for DSP, have to check him out.. Sachein seems to have a couple of foot tappers! And I thought Ukkadathu was a sermon against &quot;Love&quot; ;) Again Anand, no one is sidelining or wants to sideline the &quot;Peter&quot; songs. I just need some variety!
And btw, I just realised that all the complaints that a lot of ppl have about gaana are just similar to the ones that my dad has/had about the same songs that these complaintants seem to enjoy. Not that I am saying that all you complaintants are old geezers, but just that opinions are opinions!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Visitha: Let me thrown in a small curve ball here. I am still not sure whether everyone sitting there watching cricket enjoyed the song. I just think some enjoyed and the rest were either ambivalent or just keeping quiet. Whether all of us liked it or not is another question, but atleast we (knowingly or unknowingly) let the 2 non-Tams form their own opinion! And thats the path I wanna go, overall and i think thats mirroring your opinion as well.</p>
<p>Varun: I am talking NEITHER of overnight change nor about pride in my language. I am talking about pride in MY music! If u notice, I ask you to get to the zone and concentrate not on the lyrics (i.e. the language) or the choreo, but only on the beats! And inspite of having just passing knowledge of Telugu, I am reccommending atleast 2 telugu songs. So, my contention is not about the Tamil language. Ultimately, I need songs to dance to and songs, be it Telugu or Tamil or Hindi or Punjabi would suffice. It is just that wherever I go, I get to dance to the same songs that I thought some variety could help. And I sought this variety in the form of gaana! And if u think Hindi as you know it is sweeter than the Chennai Tamil, check out the Hindi spoken in the Old City areas of Hyderabad and Mumbai! So, Hindi is as multidimensional as any other language.</p>
<p>Kumaran: True, but again, I am prepared for anything if it means I&#8217;d get variety on the dance floor. Kamal had this line in some movie or the other, referring to jokes. Roughly translated to, the fun of a joke is in the laughter it generates, and not in the analysis of its punchline!<br />
Similarly, if u wanna  have mindless fun, dance to the song, but dont think too much about the technical aspects!</p>
<p>Anand: You&#8217;ve linked to a lot of my other favs. I just took the pick of my favs to incl. in these posts! And I have actually heard Kabhi Kabhi! A friend of mine thinks its hilarious too and used to keep singing it when I was in Chicago till about a month ago! Ya, Thottal Poo Malarum! How could i miss it? And as for DSP, have to check him out.. Sachein seems to have a couple of foot tappers! And I thought Ukkadathu was a sermon against &#8220;Love&#8221; <img src='http://superstarksa.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Again Anand, no one is sidelining or wants to sideline the &#8220;Peter&#8221; songs. I just need some variety!<br />
And btw, I just realised that all the complaints that a lot of ppl have about gaana are just similar to the ones that my dad has/had about the same songs that these complaintants seem to enjoy. Not that I am saying that all you complaintants are old geezers, but just that opinions are opinions!</p>
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		<title>By: Anand</title>
		<link>http://superstarksa.com/2005/04/26/footloose-blues-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-254</link>
		<dc:creator>Anand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to know that the topic is stirring up so much debate. I had earlier posted my comment on &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.teakada.com/archives/footloose_blues_i.html#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Teakada&lt;/A&gt; .
Some analysis: Gaana/Kuthu has a lot of sub categories, without trying to christen them u can broadly class them, say
the good kuthus - &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/GVxgRRZ-QgGfHDfOBitZ/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Arul&lt;/A&gt; my recent fav, Saamy, Aall thota boopathy, Kasumela, others from Ninaivirukum varai, kannedire thondrinal...
then there are the Gaanas which are slower and use hardcore Madras Bashai (and sung by Deva &amp; Co) with content that is slightly bawdy &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/dAKgWzvWrwGfHDfOBitZ/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Kabhi Kabhi&lt;/A&gt; (if u haven&#039;t heard this, its hilarious)can&#039;t remember many main stream songs that fall into this, guess this is the closest to the &#039;original&#039; pre-cinema Gaana genre.
As far as packaging is concerened, I think the problem is deeper. Suppose we assume for one moment that Kuthu songs are crass (tell that to Harris Jeyaraj&#039;s Ukkadathu), even immensely dancable tamil-pop like &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/Zq2gbvmaSgGfHDfOBitZ/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;hello doctor&lt;/A&gt;, or any other rocking ARR song doesn&#039;t get to play. The problem is opportunity, I say any south Indian genre is never given a chance, the case for &#039;Kuthu&#039; is stronger as they appear spontaneously dancable. 
Off late we have a humber of remixes like &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/JAxgl1e9SFGfHDfOBitZ/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Thotta poo malarum&lt;/A&gt; that languish only in car and home stereos.Not to mention the great works of DSP (Devi Sri Prasad)&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/AAI_QiRmwwGfHDfOBitZ/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Niluvadhamu&lt;/A&gt;, &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/Y4x_U34SXgGfHDfOBitZ/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Andamaina&lt;/A&gt;
Another issue I wanna raise is why should english songs be sidelined vis a vis Indian music, English is as much an Indian language as tamil, punjabi or hindi, time to celebrate the peterhood of India.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to know that the topic is stirring up so much debate. I had earlier posted my comment on <a HREF="http://www.teakada.com/archives/footloose_blues_i.html#comments" rel="nofollow"> Teakada</a> .<br />
Some analysis: Gaana/Kuthu has a lot of sub categories, without trying to christen them u can broadly class them, say<br />
the good kuthus &#8211; <a HREF="http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/GVxgRRZ-QgGfHDfOBitZ/" rel="nofollow">Arul</a> my recent fav, Saamy, Aall thota boopathy, Kasumela, others from Ninaivirukum varai, kannedire thondrinal&#8230;<br />
then there are the Gaanas which are slower and use hardcore Madras Bashai (and sung by Deva &amp; Co) with content that is slightly bawdy <a HREF="http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/dAKgWzvWrwGfHDfOBitZ/" rel="nofollow"> Kabhi Kabhi</a> (if u haven&#8217;t heard this, its hilarious)can&#8217;t remember many main stream songs that fall into this, guess this is the closest to the &#8216;original&#8217; pre-cinema Gaana genre.<br />
As far as packaging is concerened, I think the problem is deeper. Suppose we assume for one moment that Kuthu songs are crass (tell that to Harris Jeyaraj&#8217;s Ukkadathu), even immensely dancable tamil-pop like <a HREF="http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/Zq2gbvmaSgGfHDfOBitZ/" rel="nofollow">hello doctor</a>, or any other rocking ARR song doesn&#8217;t get to play. The problem is opportunity, I say any south Indian genre is never given a chance, the case for &#8216;Kuthu&#8217; is stronger as they appear spontaneously dancable.<br />
Off late we have a humber of remixes like <a HREF="http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/JAxgl1e9SFGfHDfOBitZ/" rel="nofollow">Thotta poo malarum</a> that languish only in car and home stereos.Not to mention the great works of DSP (Devi Sri Prasad)<a HREF="http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/AAI_QiRmwwGfHDfOBitZ/" rel="nofollow">Niluvadhamu</a>, <a HREF="http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/Y4x_U34SXgGfHDfOBitZ/" rel="nofollow">Andamaina</a><br />
Another issue I wanna raise is why should english songs be sidelined vis a vis Indian music, English is as much an Indian language as tamil, punjabi or hindi, time to celebrate the peterhood of India.</p>
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		<title>By: kumaran</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree that gaana songs may be looked down upon because music like parai (eg. in movie &#039;Thendral&#039;) are associated with saavu melam and considered inauspicious... but one problem with most of the gaana songs, at least for me, is that their lyrics are meaningless (maybe it is part and parcel of a gaana song to not have meaningful lyrics, but i don&#039;t like to think so)... i would appreciate it more if the songs had decent lyrics...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree that gaana songs may be looked down upon because music like parai (eg. in movie &#8216;Thendral&#8217;) are associated with saavu melam and considered inauspicious&#8230; but one problem with most of the gaana songs, at least for me, is that their lyrics are meaningless (maybe it is part and parcel of a gaana song to not have meaningful lyrics, but i don&#8217;t like to think so)&#8230; i would appreciate it more if the songs had decent lyrics&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and in fact, malaysian gov does not recognize all people as malaysians...u hv indians, malays, chinese...

so there u go...!

varun.
(this was certainly off the topic!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and in fact, malaysian gov does not recognize all people as malaysians&#8230;u hv indians, malays, chinese&#8230;</p>
<p>so there u go&#8230;!</p>
<p>varun.<br />
(this was certainly off the topic!)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i guess what i said was not understood clearly.

i m not gonna rephrase it..please re-read it..i hv the tendency to use a lot of words..sorry abt that..it might be easy for reader to lose my train of thought or pick up one small issue somewhere..

i was not off trajectory..i was giving my rebuttal to the issue of pride..

liking/loving something is NOT the same as being proud/having a sense of belonging to it..

Malysian gov may recognize every1 as indians..but u still go by NI and SI..(hindi guy and tamil guy )ur comments says that! so if the difference exists , it exists! 

peace!
varun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i guess what i said was not understood clearly.</p>
<p>i m not gonna rephrase it..please re-read it..i hv the tendency to use a lot of words..sorry abt that..it might be easy for reader to lose my train of thought or pick up one small issue somewhere..</p>
<p>i was not off trajectory..i was giving my rebuttal to the issue of pride..</p>
<p>liking/loving something is NOT the same as being proud/having a sense of belonging to it..</p>
<p>Malysian gov may recognize every1 as indians..but u still go by NI and SI..(hindi guy and tamil guy )ur comments says that! so if the difference exists , it exists! </p>
<p>peace!<br />
varun.</p>
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